Something about people living in glass houses might be appropriate….

from here:

Pope speech compares atheist ‘extremism’ with Nazism

The Pope has compared “atheist extremism” to the Nazi tyranny of WWII in a speech given in Edinburgh as he begins a four-day visit to the UK.

The pontiff praised Britain’s fight against the Nazis – who “wished to eradicate God” – before relating it to modern day “atheist extremism”.

Afterwards his spokesman Federico Lombardi said: “I think the Pope knows rather well what the Nazi ideology is”.


Yep, That’s his spokesman said that.


30 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by geologywoman on September 16, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    Maybe that really was a joint in his mouth (see the photo on my blog)…


  2. pot calling kettle…

    the moment I read this I knew PZ Myers would have a pithy reply. and here it is:


  3. *shift eyes*


  4. It’s so refreshing to have a candid PR person…..


  5. The Nazis were for the most part Christian by religion.

    Life gets more confusing by the moment. But, also, more amusing. 😛


  6. Posted by Snowy on September 16, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! How would a former member of Hitler youth know much about Nazism? His wartime predecessor didn’t seem to have a problem with it, or the treatment of the Jews.


  7. Posted by paikea on September 16, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    ah – Darth Ratzinger strikes again – if i wasn’t already an ex-Catholic atheist, i’d certainly be well on my way now – do you mind if i post this at some point soon? – he is really unbelievable (well, actually this is all very believable, but you know what i mean)



  8. Posted by paikea on September 16, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    and history to Rat: Hitler was baptized Catholic and you people NEVER ex-communicated him, but you managed to ex-communicate the nun from Phoenix who approved a life-saving abortion)

    Sister Margret’s Choice


    • I hadn’t read about that one.

      About letting it go to term?
      One of 3 (three) times I ever heard my father use profanity.
      One was my sweet old maid English teacher who was too embarrassed to come in about the lump on her chest until it was much, much too late.
      Another involved my demented sister flooding his office from her apartment unstairs, with added cockroaches.
      And the other was his patient who DIED of that.
      Back in the days of illegal abortion, when he’d had to take her case before a board to argue for one for her, and had gotten it okayed.
      But she refused the termination on the advice of her priest, and a fellow doctor (Catholic and devout).
      She and baby died.
      Oh, and left her other children without a mother too.


      • Posted by paikea on September 18, 2010 at 12:25 am

        stories like that are what make me keep blogging, seriously, because it’s not like that kind of this doesn’t happen today, huh – way more often than it should, considering we’re in the 21st century – i swear, sometimes i think we’re going backwards instead of forwards

        what pisses me off is the CC’s stance on BC and abortion in regards to the 3rd World – what, like these people really need to have more kids – for what – so there are more Catholics, of course – and poor, because those are the people who need some hope the more are most easily “led”



      • Posted by geologywoman on September 18, 2010 at 10:37 pm

        Forgive me, I know this is a serious subject, but the thing your sister did…I am cracking up.


      • geologywoman,

        it cracks me up too.
        She’s my looniest sister – and there is a fair amount of competition.
        She’d been living up there for about a year, with a couple of indoor cats, and had just kept adding litter boxes instead of changing them.
        Oh my.
        And that was before she got really nuts.


  9. I am a little dumbfounded… um… yeah. wow


  10. Posted by paikea on September 18, 2010 at 12:28 am

    oh – interesting tidbit – Hitler actually outlawed atheism and freethought groups in 1933, so “Hitlerism” – SO not athiest – here’s another interesting post that Snowy sent me – at PZ Myer’s blog


    • Posted by geologywoman on September 18, 2010 at 10:32 pm

      Yeah, I was thinking that I thought Hitler had been one of those Bible-misinterpreters. You know, the master race thing ordained by God or some bullshit.


  11. Posted by paikea on September 18, 2010 at 12:29 am

    sorry, “Nazism”


  12. That’s one for the “You Can’t Make This Stuff Up” files, alrighty. Talk about the worst wording possible. I refuse to believe his spokesman wasn’t briefed on the Pope’s life history.

    Atheist extremism? Geez. A few billboards reminding people that other, more inclusive theories exist regarding where life began hardly sounds like Nazism.

    Also, I remember Nazis wishing to eradicate Jews and Gypsies and other innocent minorities, but I don’t recall Hitler calling for the eradication of God. But then, I’m not as well-versed in the Nazi ideology as the Pope.


    • Posted by paikea on September 19, 2010 at 4:35 am

      oh, Good point, Kirk – seriously, no one remembers reading anything about Hitler calling for the eradication of God! – wouldn’t that have been kind of telling? – but, no, they have to make stuff up about Hitler being an atheist – geez


  13. irony’s totally not on Ratzinger’s radar, is it?!

    GAH!!!! [sorry for yelling; I just had to get it out of my system]


  14. I like to call him the Perp or Ratzo. He collects kitten statues and wears Prada shoes and has a manservant. Don’t open a window or drop the soap. Funny, wasn’t he a Hitler youth? Isn’t that the Nazi calling the kettle atheist?


    • You know, I couldn’t make this stuff up if I tried.


    • Posted by paikea on September 19, 2010 at 4:42 am

      ah – so, i posted this on my FB (way to weed people out and horrify my friends from school and uni who DON’T talk about these things on a normal basis – the only people who commented and we had a lively discussion were VOXers – figures! – lol! – sigh* ex-VOXers – i think i’ll always thing of us as VOXers)

      anyhoo, to address your question, dancingbear:

      Darth Rat’s family moved four times to avoid the Nazis (his father was anti-Nazi) – they ended up in very Catholic town, and that’s when he joined up with the Hitler youth – membership in Hitler Youth became compulsory for ages 10-18 in 1936, and forced upon all German boys of age10 in 1939 – Rat joined up in 1941, at the age of 14 – but he was already, in seminary, i think – or soon after –

      Rat makes a big deal about it being mandatory and how people didn’t have any choice – but, he didn’t join up until 1941, so that seems a bit weird – anyways…

      i found this article, which presented the whole thing from both views – forget the title – it’s obviously put there to be sensationalist – i am of the view that whatever he was or not back then, he words/views now speak volumes – yeah?


  15. Posted by paikea on September 19, 2010 at 4:44 am

    i’m just mad because i stopped being Catholic a long time ago, and the damn church is still friggin intruding in on my life – gAH!!


  16. Posted by paikea on September 19, 2010 at 4:52 am

    dancingbear wrote: “He collects kitten statues and wears Prada shoes and has a manservant.”

    so, anyone else wants to craft a Trojan Cat for the Rat?!? – hehehe – at the very least, we could fill it with condom balloons


    • Cover me. I’m going in. I just want to drop knicknacks and let him hear them shatter. I want to wear a giant condom and chase him around the Vatican. Every time we pass a major work of art I want to remind him that the artist was gay. Michelengelo? Flamer! Caravaggio? Flamer! Raphael? Size Queen!


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