They are complete ferals.
After a year of feeding they allow me to put down the food without bothering to run off.
And Loper lets me touch him.
He thinks I'm weird to want to.
There is, I think, a third brother who is orange, but he is even more shy than these two.
And these two don't so much like him coming round, so I see less of him.
I think another of my neighbors feeds them too.
They get food on the porch any time they turn up, and have thermal kitty beds on the porch chairs.
Loper occasionally sneaks in the cat door, but considers it hazardous.
Though our cats have no issues with them at all.
I'm thinking of getting organized to get them all neutered, vaccinated, and the like, but I worry about scaring them off.
May see if the local feral people would trade tasks.